Comments on: SHOULD the church adapt to a post-Google world? http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/ Reimagining the Future of Faith Fri, 03 Sep 2010 19:50:54 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Erin http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-412 Erin Fri, 13 Aug 2010 16:04:17 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-412 I'll take Ken Silva, and orthadox biblical Christianity over the world loving man-centered compromising new age emergent church, any day of the week. I’ll take Ken Silva, and orthadox biblical Christianity over the world loving man-centered compromising new age emergent church, any day of the week.

]]> By: ford expert http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-400 ford expert Sun, 25 Jul 2010 19:46:27 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-400 The status quo sucks. Sent from my iPhone 4G The status quo sucks.

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]]> By: Philip Clayton http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-288 Philip Clayton Sat, 24 Apr 2010 14:08:57 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-288 Rex, it's great to see you posting. Some of the comments to my blog, "Do No Shared Christian Convictions Remain?" address your comment here, as I'm sure you've noticed. Take care, Philip Rex, it’s great to see you posting. Some of the comments to my blog, “Do No Shared Christian Convictions Remain?” address your comment here, as I’m sure you’ve noticed.

Take care,
Philip

]]> By: Rex Hand http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-240 Rex Hand Tue, 20 Apr 2010 19:50:17 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-240 Given that I have some extensive interaction with Pentecostal sect which I also believe, maybe mistakenly, is closely related to what the SBC believes...the full Deity of Jesus Christ or as the they say " Jesus is God manifested in the flesh." Considering the nature of this topic is would not seem implausible to accept this view as I am aware that the Bible states this in more than a few verses in the New Testament. So I think what I am saying is in alignment with Ken Silva and not a Trinitarian view. For me, I like this view, however in no way am I unshakable in my belief of this or anything else for that matter. Also being drawn to toward scientific methods helps me to stay grounded, and in keeping an open mind leaving room for dialectic review of beliefs, structures, and opinions on all topics. But for some factions and groups who are unyielding in their beliefs, there comes a danger of pernicious outcomes. Learning to be amicable toward others' beliefs can be difficult in the broad spectrum. Today's religious extremism overshadows the good purpose that religion plays in the lives of many, but I also see the danger of religious control over people as well. Church to me is a form of crowd control; although deeply held Christian values and beliefs are an important staple in my household. Interestingly though, even the Four Horsemen find that religious values and traditions do not escape their recognition or practice in some instances such as sending Christmas cards as Dennett claims to do. Thanks Phil for an outlet such as this as it draws me from the mathematical world for a time. Given that I have some extensive interaction with Pentecostal sect which I also believe, maybe mistakenly, is closely related to what the SBC believes…the full Deity of Jesus Christ or as the they say ” Jesus is God manifested in the flesh.” Considering the nature of this topic is would not seem implausible to accept this view as I am aware that the Bible states this in more than a few verses in the New Testament. So I think what I am saying is in alignment with Ken Silva and not a Trinitarian view. For me, I like this view, however in no way am I unshakable in my belief of this or anything else for that matter. Also being drawn to toward scientific methods helps me to stay grounded, and in keeping an open mind leaving room for dialectic review of beliefs, structures, and opinions on all topics. But for some factions and groups who are unyielding in their beliefs, there comes a danger of pernicious outcomes. Learning to be amicable toward others’ beliefs can be difficult in the broad spectrum. Today’s religious extremism overshadows the good purpose that religion plays in the lives of many, but I also see the danger of religious control over people as well. Church to me is a form of crowd control; although deeply held Christian values and beliefs are an important staple in my household. Interestingly though, even the Four Horsemen find that religious values and traditions do not escape their recognition or practice in some instances such as sending Christmas cards as Dennett claims to do. Thanks Phil for an outlet such as this as it draws me from the mathematical world for a time.

]]> By: John King http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-227 John King Wed, 07 Apr 2010 13:22:00 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-227 There have been two interesting responses posted at Religion Dispatches to Gary Laderman's article There have been two interesting responses posted at Religion Dispatches to Gary Laderman’s article

]]> By: Steve Harmon http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-225 Steve Harmon Sun, 04 Apr 2010 03:43:24 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-225 John, Thanks for the book plug for Ecumenism Means You, Too: Ordinary Christians and the Quest for Christian Unity. For anyone wondering about the book John was referencing, here's a link to a preview of the book: http://ecclesialtheology.blogspot.com/2010/03/ecumenism-means-you-too-ordinary.html Grace and peace, Steve Harmon John,

Thanks for the book plug for Ecumenism Means You, Too: Ordinary Christians and the Quest for Christian Unity.

For anyone wondering about the book John was referencing, here’s a link to a preview of the book: http://ecclesialtheology.blogspot.com/2010/03/ecumenism-means-you-too-ordinary.html

Grace and peace,

Steve Harmon

]]> By: Philip Clayton http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-224 Philip Clayton Thu, 01 Apr 2010 16:48:53 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-224 John, beautifully put! -- Philip John, beautifully put! — Philip

]]> By: John King http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-223 John King Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:54:06 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-223 Dr. Clayton, I could not agree more. As I have said before, "For myself I am most comfortable with the diversity of views while at the same time trying to bridge our differences with an emphasis on what Christians have in common. It seems that we will never be able (and maybe we should not) to cross the bridges and stand all on one side; but, if we build the bridges, we can, at least, cross over on occassion and visit/share/love our fellow Christians" I am forever comfortable with our differences, but relentless on finding and clarifying our common faith. Peace in God and Jesus Christ Dr. Clayton,

I could not agree more.

As I have said before,

“For myself I am most comfortable with the diversity of views while at the same time trying to bridge our differences with an emphasis on what Christians have in common. It seems that we will never be able (and maybe we should not) to cross the bridges and stand all on one side; but, if we build the bridges, we can, at least, cross over on occassion and visit/share/love our fellow Christians”

I am forever comfortable with our differences, but relentless on finding and clarifying our common faith.

Peace in God and Jesus Christ

]]> By: Philip Clayton http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-222 Philip Clayton Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:40:26 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-222 John is referring to Gary Laderman's article at http://ow.ly/1tzlW -- given the extremes in Christianity, he argues, perhaps it's better to give up on the term altogether. But why would we say this? Why not use the abuses as the occasion for reclaiming the power of Jesus' life and teachings? If that message has been overlaid with dogmas and accretions, why not work to scrape them away? What we need is a "Just Christian" movement (pun attended), a return to a Just Faith. John is referring to Gary Laderman’s article at http://ow.ly/1tzlW — given the extremes in Christianity, he argues, perhaps it’s better to give up on the term altogether.

But why would we say this? Why not use the abuses as the occasion for reclaiming the power of Jesus’ life and teachings? If that message has been overlaid with dogmas and accretions, why not work to scrape them away? What we need is a “Just Christian” movement (pun attended), a return to a Just Faith.

]]> By: John King http://philipclayton.net/2010/03/14/should-the-church-adapt-to-a-post-google-world/comment-page-1/#comment-221 John King Thu, 01 Apr 2010 11:39:56 +0000 http://clayton.ctr4process.org/?p=290#comment-221 There is a very interesting article at Religion Dispatches on the web entitled: What do "The Christians" Believe? Easton Reflections from a Non-Christian. The article speaks to the issue of the diversity of Christian belief in not a very positive light; but it is though provoking. There is a new book that has come out entitled: Ecumenism means You, too. I have not read the book yet, but am looking forward to it even more in light of the discussion here and the article at Religion Dispatches Peace in God and Jesus Christ There is a very interesting article at Religion Dispatches on the web entitled:

What do “The Christians” Believe? Easton Reflections from a Non-Christian.

The article speaks to the issue of the diversity of Christian belief in not a very positive light; but it is though provoking.

There is a new book that has come out entitled:

Ecumenism means You, too.

I have not read the book yet, but am looking forward to it even more in light of the discussion here and the article at Religion Dispatches

Peace in God and Jesus Christ

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